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'End state of emergency'

Rights groups say measure not a long-term tool to fight crime

BY KARYL WALKER Online Editor walkerk@jamaicaobserver.com

Tuesday, July 13, 2010



HUMAN rights groups, Families Against State Terrorism (FAST) and Jamaicans For Justice (JFJ) yesterday hit out against the extension of the state of emergency, saying it should be used in cases of crisis but not as a tool to fight crime.

Speaking to reporters and editors at the Observer's weekly Monday Exchange, head of FAST Yvonne McCalla-Sobers said her organisation supported the initial call for the state of emergency by Prime Minister Bruce Golding, after civil unrest erupted in the aftermath of his apology and announcement that a warrant of arrest to proceed with the extradition of former Tivoli Gardens strongman Christopher 'Dudus' Coke had been issued.

"The state of emergency I think, was needed to rein in a situation that was dangerous and threatening to be anarchic. It is an extreme measure for an extreme situation," McCalla-Sobers said. "It was merited in the first place but in the second place it seems to be a measure to address crime. A state of emergency cannot address crime."

Gomes, of the JFJ also voiced her support for the initial imposition of the state of emergency, but was also cautious about the effectiveness of extending it.

"THE JFJ was in support of it when it was called, but not in support of its extension. The constitution is quite clear and those conditions no longer exist now," she said.

After a bloody gun battle in West Kingston, which resulted in the loss of 73 civilian lives, the security forces took control of the community and calm returned to sections of the city. However, when the one-month period for which Golding had announced the state of emergency would last had run out, he sought and got approval from Parliament to extend the measure for a further month. Golding also announced that the state of emergency would be extended to the neighbouring parish of St Catherine.

Some private sector groups had also supported the extension of emergency measures.

Since the state of emergency, close to 2,000 people have been taken into custody and while some have been processed and released hundreds are still detained indefinitely.

For McCalla-Sobers, the wholesale arrest of persons who live in depressed communities could have a counter-productive effect.

"When you go around picking up 500 people you are telling the bad man you don't know who you are looking for. The police need to work with secrecy, speed and accuracy of information," she said.

Gomes was also highly critical of the conditions that detained persons were being forced to endure in detention centres. She pointed to a detention centre in St Catherine where overcrowding was severe and inhumane.

"We cannot criminalise communities on the basis of address. Putting 61 people in a room that is six by 20 feet, that is standing room only. And the detainees stood all night. As well as being counter-productive it is also stupid," Gomes said.

Under the rules of the state of emergency detainees can be held without release until it ends.

At the same time, McCalla-Sobers said the Jamaica Labour Party administration should be reminded that it was once on the receiving end of a state of emergency imposed by former Prime Minister Michael Manley in the politically turbulent 1970s.

"We have a government that has been on the wrong side of the state of emergency. Once they were the outsiders being locked up," she said.


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COMMENTS (40)

Carl Cargill
7/13/2010
I have a few question I would like to ask these people, the way how people are been kill by these gun men, is this normal, abnormal time call for abnormal ways of getting the situation under control.
What these people need to do is come up with way to get the gun off the road, and any body who feel that they can go in to a person home, kill them and their kids are terrorist and should be treated that way
kay kay wits
7/13/2010
To Gary Lee. u SAY THE SOE should not have been called for in the first place..explain to me how else you would have brought under control the events of May 23-25? How? by ongoing policing? Think again..i dont think u are living in the same Jamaica i am.
Concerned Citizen
7/13/2010
I definitely have to agree with the JFJ in this case. This is perhaps the most blatant abuse of power I have seen in my lifetime in this country. Put your money where your mouth is Ms. Gomes...Judicial Review, if possible, there needs to be accountability. Quick before these imbaciles do away with the Privy Council. Those who are for this ludacris extension are abviously unaware of its true implications.
Stephen Fox
7/13/2010
Dr Gomes statement that there is not enough jail space to hold detainees indicate once again that the security forces need more resources to do their job properly. The state of emergency cannot go on forever. Our government must make it a priority to allocate more resources for this continued operation. We cannot call ourselves a civilized nation while having 60 citizens locked up in a 6 by 20 jail cell.
kay kay wits
7/13/2010
It is always so easy for the Persons from JFJ to launch criticisms without many recommendations for viable solutions. I say the state of emergency, if possible, should be extended as long as is necessary to control crime and restrict the reign of criminals...it may not be an effective strategy for the long term...but until something long term comes along i will settle for it.
gary lee
7/13/2010
Finally, the human rights groups get it. The SOE should not have been called in the first place. Give the Govt. and Security forces an inch and they will want a whole yard. These measures are only being used to brutalize and illegally detain persons in depressed communities , and was used to sanitize the killings of 73 civilians by the assault on TG.
The country needs ongoing proper policing within regular laws that protect every citizens rights.
Wilfred Gray
7/13/2010
61 persons,in 6ft. by 20ft, jail cells`is good for nigg`as` in Jamaica..and iole slaves,accept this in freedom days..not even sitting space and they are not charged. Some big blacks were important very in slavery.
How we treat each others?
It is shameful our govt. cannot allowed,it people real freedom, and good governace or equal rights and justice. if,it was `whites` teck off da kolor cde,yaa!
Jessica Jonas
7/13/2010
I agree with C M, instill the law for PUBLIC HANGING, you will see incredible results. Gomes and other people are bunch of hypocrites! What about the rights of the regular citizens of this country who are being antagonize by these hooligans on a day to day basis?
Chris Gray
7/13/2010
I am not a supporter of Bruce Golding. I still think he should resign. However, I fully endorse the PM authorizing and extending the SOE.
Bruce needs to stand up for Jamaican people and continue with the SOE because the people support it and it has proven effective in reducing violent crime.
Crime has been significantly reduced and still needs further reduction. Jamaica needs this sustained effort so criminals remain on the defensive.
JFJ & FAST are on the wrong side of the issue.
rain James
7/13/2010
Keep looking out for the little people Carolyn, Yvonne, Nancy, David Wong Ken et al.
countryman -
7/13/2010
whew!-only hope the JFJ realizes that not all jamaicans think like most of these posters. It's clear that most of these guys either lives overseas, are rich folks, or have never had an unpleseant encounter with the jamaican police.all the ladies are saying is that not all poor people are criminals and so the police should not go around locking up thousands of people from particular communities for crimes committed by only a few persons thats only gonna make the situatiopn worse!
mad max
7/13/2010
I Have come to realize that u cant please these people my god man when last has Jamaica seen a reduction in crime like this..i don't hear the police killing dozens of people during the state of emergency...jamaica just seem to have the dumbest officials on earth trust me...you know how much people in the world are truly oppressed look at Saudi Arabia, china yes china...
William Johnson
7/13/2010
Majority of attorneys want the State of Emergency to end because it's hurting their pockets.
icylin taylor
7/13/2010
Whatever it takes,whoever it takes,whenever it takes,the state of the emergency should continue every parish should be processed and filter,That we jamaicans can able to live a normal life without the fear of been robbed and kill. SOME JAMAICANS abroad want to come home.,it would be better for the country ,CRIMINANALS GOT TO GO...LETS DO IT..
critical thinker
7/13/2010
This spokesperson for the EU is nervous that the Jamaican leadership is actually serious about putting a huge dent in crime and murder. No more failed-state label possible now. That gets the EU nervous----- they enjoy creating and then economically devouring 'failed' states. Nice try EU [spokesperson]. Full speed ahead Bruce.
zara thustra
7/13/2010
Jamaica is in a crisis and these people are becoming increasingly irrelevant.
Mark Forbes
7/13/2010
Jamaica is doomed. Not because of the pols but because of the ppl who post on this topic. I wish I had more time to explain but see if you can understand. When your pressure cooker is venting you turn down the stove. What you ppl are advocating is stopping the pressure release valve. Btw my elder brother was killed by gunmen.

Brooklyn Jamaican
7/13/2010
At 5am I posted and asked a simple question. Do these people have a job? Do they have nothing else to do? What is there agenda? And what do they propose. that we give up the right to living for the rights of criminals?
E Bonner
7/13/2010
The only issue that I have with the S.O.E is that its seem to mainly target the 'small fish'. How can a 16 year old youth from the inner city who can hardly feed himself find the resources to buy sophisticated weaponry such as a M16 rifles? Why isn't more emphasis being placed on identifying and targeting the 'big fish/es' of crime? This is not to say that HR issues are not important.
don.palmer@nrc.ca palmer
7/13/2010
I am surprised at the strong support for the state of emergency. In a state of emergency, the constitution is suspended and so are the rights and freedoms of all. Is this how Jamaicans wish to live? Crime did not suddenly appear in Jamaica and it will not be cleaned up under a state of emergency. The government must put in place the proper laws and enforcement means to deal with the problem in a democratic environment. I fully support Dr. Gomes' call to end situation. Don Palmer
Rasta Dog
7/13/2010
jFj should call out to the GUNMEN, Area Leaders/Dons, Criminal Gangs to stop their brutal acts. i hardly see protests against gunmen who kill residents. but if a police kills a gunman, automatically he is a Jesus loving Bible reading Nice Christian young man coming from church and him inna nothing with nobody. Tell the gunmen to give themselves in. State of Emergency is Working
Rasta Dog
7/13/2010
I have nothing against Yvonne McCalla-Sobers and her organisation and i wish nothing bad on them, but they will see the light only if one of them or someone close to them is hurt before they realise that the State of Emergency should continue for as long as it takes, as long as they keep locking up badman and finding guns/drugs. JFJ need to sit back and shut the hell up and find real jobs, help with the police and government in their fight against curruption, crime and violence. S.O.E. we say!!!
KING DAVID
7/13/2010
Let me ask some pertinent questions here, who voted for Carolyn Gomes? how does she support herself? what constituency does she represents? is she a member of parliament? WHO are her sponsors? DOES SHE HAS A LIFE? CAROLYN PLEASE GET A LIFE OR FIND SOME FORM OF EMPLOYMENT IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE, WHICH APPARENTLY YOU DON'T HAVE!!!
Stephen Fox
7/13/2010
Dr Gomes and Ms Sobers make excellent points. All those who want a dictatorship should continue to support this state of emergency. The Security Forces need better equipment, better facilties, better pay, and an increase in manpower to control this mess that the politicians have created. All citizens are human beings people! Some of us need to get that.
Mark Brown
7/13/2010
Even though I was born and raised in a Socialist house hold, if Bruce Golding continues on the path of cleansing our beautiful Island of these low life criminals and keeps the S.O.E. intact, he WILL have my vote, and many of my family members!
KEEP UP THE PRESSURE!!!!
christopher Isaacs
7/13/2010
The seeming respite that we have gotten from the intolerable murders we were having a few days ago is proving too much for tha rights groups to take. "How could they!" they probably are saying. They probably believe that everybody should have their constitutional rights preserved to do what they do best.
Everton Walker
7/13/2010
Thank God for persons like Carolyn & Yvonne, who have not waited to have a relative shot in their backs or their heads blown off to value the rights of the citizens. I do not wish evil on their detractors but Jamaicans only seem to respond when the shoes is on their foot. One day they will wear the shoe. Remember Keith Clarke. I believe he as well as his family thought "it will never happen to me".
Winston G
7/13/2010
I have long supported the human rights lobbyists. But I have thought about it, and if I have to choose between a state with a lot of human rights abuses and a state with a very high murder rate, I would choose the lesser of the two evils, EVEN IF IT MEANS MY HUMAN RIGHTS ARE ABUSED. Until we can say the crime rate is up again with the current measures, I SAY KEEP THE CURRENT MEASURES. In this case, the end does justify the means.
C M
7/13/2010
Look People all this talk about human rights, whose rights are being protected? the criminals, these groups have their security paid by the govt they are OK what about the rest of the law abiding citizens that the criminals put fear into..Look my solution to all this killing would be a PUBLIC HANGING, NO Lethal Injection, HANGING for the PUBLIC to VIEW, see how fast they retreated after TIVOLI, forget about these human rights people, they benefit from the criminal activity.
David Armstrong
7/13/2010
These groups are out of touch with the reality of violent crime in Jamaica. The reality is that many people have been brutally murdered by barbaric gunmen so any tool or method that will stop them should be utilized. They are always finding fault with any measures used to stop or eliminate these barbaric gunmen but never offering any solutions or support for victims of violent crimes and their families. Instead of defending the perpetrators of crime they should be more vocal and critical of the corruption of politicians and the pervasive crime that garrison constituencies have incubated over the years.
Man A Yard
7/13/2010
These people are contradicting themselves. With over a thousand murders in Jamaica per year the island is in a state of crisis. The crime situation continues to be "dangerous and threatening to be anarchic." This nation is facing an extreme situation and as far as I see it, the SOE is working. it is an extreme measure for an extreme situation.
Dorlan H. Francis
7/13/2010
The murder of over 1000 Jamaicans per year is not a crisis? What then is a crisis? Not only should the state of emergency be extended it should be expanded. It should have been ALL ISLAND from day one! Shock therapy was necessary to reign in the wanton and senseless killing of Jamaicans. So far this state of emergency has been used to fight crime. Unlike the one Manley imposed for over a year which was found to be CORRUPT BUT NOT ILLEGAL and was used for political purpose.
Elli Deedo
7/13/2010
Mrs Gomes, Sorry you can only see one way. Have you a constructive plan which will rid the Country of illegal weapons?. Sorry it's not un-employment which is the cause of Crime in Jamaica, it's rather being Un-educated. On the 12.7.10. a lady age 81, was shot and killed at her home in West moreland; your Picture should be in the Papers protesting this brutal Murder of our senior Citizen. Instead you are arguing about the crime plan. Can't you find something more constructive to offer to Society?
oface oface
7/13/2010
The state of emergency is working and need to continue at least the criminals or on the defensive , these people do not understand that creating an impression that you are in charge you are serious and are in serious pursuit of the criminal elements is big part of crime fighting, let the police and the experts do their job for too long they have been muzzled. Will someone in the police high command please come out and defend their position PLEASE !!!!
Chuck Emanuel
7/13/2010
I do support the state of emergency for the period stated. However, I am very disappointed that a list of political Leaders were not arrested and fingerprinted, or named as persons of interest.
How else is anyone in government, or opposition going to be held accountable ?
Carlos Bryson
7/13/2010
Let the state of emergency continue for as long as is necessary or until responsible people (oversight agency) determines otherwise. These other folks JFJ and FAST should ensure that there is transparency and integrity in the process.
Your time could be better spent advocating for constitutional reforms with strict separation of powers and local autonomy.
Where were you when five people were being killed daily? Hounding the likes of Renito Adams who was trying to prevent this situation.
ernie beswick
7/13/2010
Golding at the moment you are not well liked, but there is one thing that thousands of Jamaicans world wide agree with is the S.O.E.which as gain results. Now we have group of so called human right groups with bleeding hearts saying it time to stop it.We as Jamaicans are saying, dont stop it until we know that every gun is taken off the streets of Kingston to the the country side. The rule of law must be paramount now.If you do this now Jamaicans at home and broad will say you have failed.
wayne Jones
7/13/2010
The state of emergency should never end as far as I'm concerned...
Jay Brown
7/13/2010
I say END IT !!
Wait until rampaging gunmen and criminals burn another station kill a few cops and terrorize the citizens of this country and only then should you use the SOE act.
Why have it now when things are all calm and gunmen are on the retreat , no end it and wait until the wreak havoc again before you use such draconian measures.
I just have a dislike for bleeding hearts and irrational thinkers. No it may not be a crime fighting tool, but hell its reduced crime so far. End it !!

John Christian
7/13/2010
what do these people want..for the past 2 yrs Gomes and MaCalla-Sobers have been bleating about the crime in Jamaica...since the declaration of the S.O.E.a noticeable decline has occured re criminality...No country can be operated at the whims and fancies of human rights activists..they are necessary, but they are not the Govt....let the Govt do what they have to...keep the pressure on the Criminals,keep them destabilized.

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