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Jamaica's culture clash with homosexuality

MARK WIGNALL

Thursday, August 18, 2011



"Not in my Cabinet," was the strident answer given by Prime Minister Golding in 2008 when asked by the BBC's Steven Sackur on its programme HARDtalk if he would appoint gays to his Cabinet.

The beautiful luxury of hindsight affords us the opportunity to see that in the interview Sackur was setting up Golding for the simple question and the problematic response, but Golding blew it. Prior to asking the direct question, Golding had touched on Jamaica's culture in relation to homosexuality, and in answering it, he should have reverted to the culture line but with an expansion of his position, the country's position.

Even though we know that Golding was playing to the wider Jamaican anti-homosexual constituency, the full import of his response signalled that the leadership of the country was in the forefront of those who probably wanted to say, "Boom, bye, bye" to those openly flaunting their lifestyles on the down low.

In the previous PNP administration there was at least one powerful Cabinet member who was homosexual. During the PNP's run I had two luncheon meetings with him to discuss policy matters and while seated across the table from him, his lifestyle was the last thing on my mind - in fact it never even featured in my thought processes.

I am not aware that the normal, heterosexual PNP Cabinet members caught his "malady" and neither did I contract anything from proximity to him.

That said, I can empathise with TVJ for not wanting to air the pro-tolerance, pro-love public service announcement in which a former Miss Jamaica World expresses love for her homosexual brother. An indication of the virulent intolerance that Jamaicans have for those practising the lifestyle was seen in a Facebook post where one woman lambasted the former beauty queen for loving her own brother. Utterly amazing!

I have a relative who is lesbian and she has a bubbling, go-getter personality. Did I raise my hands to the heavens when I found out and say, "Oh, Lawd, what is this?" Absolutely not! I simply shrugged it off and made the decision that when next we meet I would give her a special embrace to indicate that I have no less love for her.

As a Jamaican I have to be true to my culture. It is what I am. For example, I could not have in my small circle of male friends one who openly practises the homosexual lifestyle. I wouldn't know how to relate to him or what to say to him. Do I say, "So, how was it with you and Big Moose last night? Did he rock your world?' The fact is, in a country where we are highly intolerant of what is euphemistically called "gay", while we cannot awake the next morning with a "Love gays" label emblazoned in our hearts, the decision to be more tolerant is something that civilised people ought to make, if only for the reason that homosexuals, like the poor, will be with us forever.

That said, I have remained puzzled for many years as to why a male would find another male sexually enticing. No so-called gay gene has been identified and the world accepts that homosexuality is a "lifestyle". In other words it is largely a choice, but, what is it that triggers that decision to go on the down low?

On Monday I telephoned a well-known doctor who has spent many years trying to unravel this phenomenon. "Only a very small percentage, much less that one per cent, of children born at Jubilee Hospital are born with what we refer to as ambiguous genitalia. That is, a vagina and a penis, maybe a vestigial one. It is always a difficult call for the surgeon to make a decision on what to do. It is usually best to wait for a number of years after which one can get an indication as to what particular sexual direction the child is headed, along with a consideration of the physiology on the inside. Then along with the parents' consent we can do the 'repair job' if you want to call it that and apply some hormone therapy."

Then I asked him the question, "Outside of that, what is it that would make a male later on in life want to have sex with another male? Personally, I find it repugnant, but it happens. What causes it?"

His answer shocked me. "To me, it is choice. They could be socialised into it or, as you ought to know, many of our poorer young men are driven to it by poverty."

"But how does that explain, say, San Francisco, or even some of our local homosexual politicians? Poverty was not a factor there. Could it be a mental imbalance which manifests itself into this social deviance? I know that it is no longer classified in medical literature as such, but in the end, what is it that is the main causal factor?"

"Medical science is still struggling with that. The fact is, people for whatever reasons make a choice at some stage of their lives that they want to express their sexuality in a particular way. If they want to do so, it is their right."

Whether it is triggered at birth or later by some hormonal imbalance, or it is strictly choice, the fact is it is here. Our "friends" in the powerful US and EU countries have fully embraced the right of their people to adopt the lifestyle, and thinking of us as savages, they believe that the time is right, considering how parlous our economic state is, to ram home their culture on us.

It cannot be as simple as that. While I would agree that our law on buggery is an ass, the US and the EU must recognise that culture changes do not occur in a flash, by fiat or by money coercion. To me, if two men want to get it on in the privacy of their bedrooms, it is up to them. All I would ask in return is that they keep it where it belongs - in private.

Many Jamaicans are of the view that what these latter-day foreign "invaders" with their money bags are doing is forcing on us a process which may begin with a repeal of the buggery law but may end up with Jamaica endorsing gay marriage. After that, what is likely to follow would be the sick scenario of gays in such a union adopting children!

This is by no means a perfect world and Jamaica has never been anywhere near independent. In the mid-1990s a snotty American teenager named Michael Fay visited Singapore. While there he decided one late evening to spread his US-learned nastiness by using a can of spray paint to despoil dozens of cars. He was held and sentenced to receive six lashes of the bamboo cane.

Even the then US President Bill Clinton intervened. In the end, Singapore did not cave in, but compromised and applied four strokes of the cane to the young man. Singapore was able to do so because it did not have its hands out begging anyone.

We are in no such position so we will always be forced to bend over and accept what is coming.

observemark@gmail.com



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COMMENTS (32)

D T
8/18/2011
This is real simple, if we can love each other for who we are then there would be no problems at all. We should embrace each others differences, this is what makes us individuals. I have no gay friends and I cant say I ever will but i am not disgusted when I see any gays as I dont see gays, I see people. Lets us never lose that love for each other, being different is not wrong. Some whites had and still feel this way about black people are we any different.
vawhn moxam
8/18/2011
A question for Pamala Bridgewater. Can you state if it's the policy of the USA and the EU to enforce the aceptance of homosexuality in Jamaica? Thanks in advance.
Sonny Black
8/18/2011
Why all this noise about Jamaica being Homophobic when every where you go these "whatever you call them" is all over the place flaunting their disgusting lifestyle in our faces. In Africa, the Middle East and Asia they are sometimes stoned to death yet no one screams at those countries. As a Jamaican i am personally disgusted by the actions of these "Gay People" but i think Jamaica is more tolerant than most countries. So you Gay Supporters please give us a break, we are poor but Proud.
Adrian Wright
8/18/2011
There are an abundance of countries in the world not willing to gain the world and lose their souls, not willing to prostitute their sovereignty. We need to desist masquerading this debate in terms of "they won't give us any aid if we don't..." I submit we concentrate and focus on nationbuilding so Jamaica doesn't have to check it's dignity and culture at the door because we panhandle for foreign aid. I'm all for tolerance but my gay friends need to tolerate my disdain for their proclivity.
Nejeeper KNG
8/18/2011
Mark statement like “Our "friends" in the powerful US and EU countries have fully embraced the right of their people to adopt the lifestyle” is not true. Not all Americans and Europeans embrace the lifestyle. Please do some more research. I love all Jamaicans, but I have a right to hate what I believe are immoral acts. I hope that this topic don’t take away from more important issues like crime, garrison politics, teenage pregnancy and poverty. Poverty contributes to this lifestyle.
George Garwood
8/18/2011
I’ve noticed that in recent weeks this Paper has been very preoccupied with homosexuality. It seems to me that there are more important things right now in Jamaica to deal with like creating jobs for poor people and stopping all the horrible killings in our country. As said before, the Bible is not a sex manual. Matter of fact, God doesn't do sex.
Dexter Cole
8/18/2011
@ Wanda Woeman....You say "we have found that most of the crimes against them are homosexual on homosexual crimes or crimes of passion."
Ignorance is a bliss. You will hear about those specific crimes on the very TVJ. What you will not hear about, however, are the hate crimes. You will be kept in the dark to make sure you believe what you ought to believe. I just cannot fathom why so many Jamaicans are so brutally closed off to differences. There must be a lesson to learn in all this.

Antonette W.
8/18/2011
I usually enjoy reading Mr. Wignall's column, but this left me disappointed. His personal views aside, I think his doctor friend is very backward to say that it's a personal choice. Has he read much of the research that indicates that most are born that way? Being born with ambiguous genitalia is a totally different thing from homosexuality. It bothers me when educated people make such parochial statements. I have gay friends & I know that their sum total is not just what they do in the bedroom.
jenn longmore
8/18/2011
it is most disappointing to read your complete disregard for the simple act of public education for your culture. Based on what you wrote,...I have one thing to say.....'I like beautiful Jamaica, I do not like your culture. Your culture is so unlike your beautiful Jamaica.
Carlton Gordon
8/18/2011
Not unreasonable,Mark. But I have a concern about your last sentence. I believe that even if what you say in that sentence is generally true, especially following your previous paragraph, some of us would rather die with "all our dignities" and "real freedom" than surrender to what in any case is idolatry, which leads to every kind of "death" there is or might be -- before,during and after a "miserable" and "tormented" life..
jenn longmore
8/18/2011
Mr Wignall, no one is asking you to be for anything so whether or not you find homosexuality repugnant is not the point. You speak out of two sides of your mouth and the only thing you did was tryh to provce that you are not gay ! ..Sir, that is ok, but be clear that the issue in JA is about human rights and citizens constitutional rights. Buggery laws are heinous and irrelevant today. EU and US prefer to deal with civilized world citizens..that is all ! you to build up , then tear down..WHY ??
Dexter Cole
8/18/2011
It is sad that Jamaicans always say that only the US and the EU offer some form of protection for gays and lesbians. Check out South America. Most countries there didn't even have any laws against homosexuality or buggery for that matter dating from their colonial period. Look at South Africa coming from Apartheid. They even offer full marriage equality there too!
A population should not seek to control and dominate any minority group thereof. That's what Hitler and his Nazi regime did.

Lionel Gayle
8/18/2011
My understanding is that few people are born with homo. inclination. With others it's a learned behaviour. I know one mother who became a lesbian because she was "fed up wid di man dem." In a TV doc. the head of a L.A. "gay house" scoffed at a sex-change as he might resume "a straight man" image. Actress Anne Heche had hooked up with Ellen DeGeneres for three years. She's now married and divorced with two kids. I'm not homophobic but I expect gays around me to keep their gayliness to themselves.
pete delisser
8/18/2011
when U start questioning, the what, hows & whys about gay men & gay sex, in essence, youre becoming curious. And thats what drive fear, the phobia..and the hatred. I recall a very homophobic friend in HSchool, son of a judge, his look could kill. Years after graduating, I went to a gay party with lesbian friends. I almost wet my pants when I saw the guy at this party, with his boyfriend lawyer. He turned pink. Later we chatted & he explained his phobia, was a cover up of his own feelings!
2kool .
8/18/2011
Around 5:00 am after a new years eve party in New York I went to the subway station to catch a train. As soon as I entered the station I encountered several places where people had vomit on the platform and some even on the train tracks below. I figured people were partying and had too much to drink and this is the result until I walked to the end of the platform and saw the reason why. There were two men lip locked kissing on the platform. The site was so disgusting I too had to vomit.
pete delisser
8/18/2011
Interesting article, until the writer started to wonder what would make a man want to be gay- what, how & why. Thats a big part of what causes homophobia & intolerance. Why would a straight man, try to wonder 'why' & 'how' about homo? I can assure U, gays never fantasise about heterosexual sex. Fact is, sexuality is like a tree, with many branches..why some grow a certain way is irrelevant. It is what it is. its not a choice, and at end of day, we all must coexist!! One Luv.
M Honig
8/18/2011
Mr Wignall's discourse is incoherent, and, I must say, pathetic. On the one hand he loves his lesbian cousin, and enjoins other Jamaicans to be tolerant, on the other other, he is only too happy to share his revulsion about gay men. His assumption that sexual orientation is a matter of choice is anti-scientific in the extreme. Indeed, the only consistent thing about this waffling "contribution" is his use of the word lifestyle instead of orientation. This is not what I call reflection.

8/18/2011
Irrespective of our orientation, we all have predetermined acceptable norms. We co-exist in a world where everything cannot be allowed. Gays have value systems, so do I. Personally homosexuality is wrong, given my christian stance. I love for all mankind, again given my christian position. Sexual imorality, irrespective of one's orientation is negatively impacting our society and sadly we all seem to turn a blind eye to our kids who are playing with fire and being burnt in unimaginable ways.
Meat Head
8/18/2011
You never answered your own question - what would make a man choose to be gay? Why would anyone choose to be discriminated against or physically harmed? Why is prepubescent behavior in children a good predictor of later gay orientation? Why are certain brain structures in gay men different from straight men? Why is the gay orientation not restricted to humans - it is widely reported in other animals? Obviously, it is a free choice...
Ray Stennett
8/18/2011
"When you do not stand for something you might fall for anything." There's no doubt that Jamaica will be vindicated on a principled stand against the homosexual lifestyle. We have no many ills affecting us already, to embrace this deviant behavior. At the same time we should not discriminate or cause harm to anyone but acceptance is no. The USA and EU can play the hypocrite in trying to use a carrot and stick approach with assistance to Jamaica. Maybe this will unites us to educate ourselves and work hard for a more prosperous Jamaica.
Su Gar
8/18/2011
What a heap o' ignorance? Why waste time trying to decide whether homosexuality is natural or not, or if you could enjoy it? What consenting persons do is their own business. Your duty as a member of a society is to respect and protect the rights of others to exist, be different and still thrive regardless of who they are, because if you don't, your own rights could be threatened in the same way since we all harbour differences others find repugnant. As you know, homosexuality is not contagious.
Caleb Barrett
8/18/2011
Also quite disgusting is Wignall's propagandistic swipe that the PNP had a powerful homosexual Minister. How did you know that Mark? And are you telling me that here aren't homosexuals in the JLP right now? This "tolerance" from the supposedly secular Wignall is nothing but a sham. He is again an embarrassment to the profession of journalism, having already reduced the profession of polling.
Caleb Barrett
8/18/2011
This is stupidness. Instead of rigorous science, this is just mout-talk. Wignall doesn't even have the excuse of being a religious person. And outside of religion, why should it bother anyone what other people do as consenting adults? Homosexuality is most often not a "lifestyle", in the same way heterosexuality is not a lifestyle. Cant Jca get some competent thinkers and writers? No wonder we poor and ignorant. The world is carrying on it's merry way while Jcans bas each other with the Bible.
carlos king
8/18/2011
Mark, Jamaica calls itself a christian country but we're by and large a set of hypocrite! A case in point, we decry homosexuality (and rightly so because its against bible law) but at the same time we encourage our littel boys to "bruk yuh ducks!" ,i.e, fornicate and adulterate. If straight people weren't braking the the bible law then gays would have no chat. Another point, let us leave judgment to God. None of us have the right to condemn another. We need to practice tolerance not violence.
vawhn moxam
8/18/2011
Well said Mark, wish I could have express these sentiments so fluently my self. I am hoping that some one will try to post this article on the Treasurebeach . net as it seems to me , that web site only publish comments, or messages that is pro homosexual.
Barry Francis
8/18/2011
Mark why are you accusing the P.N.P of being the gay part on the down low . How did u know tha the man was gay .Stop spread rumour

Kingston Bailliff
8/18/2011
Wignall, u sound confused in this one mi bredda. How can u say the "buggering law is an ass"? Yet almost in the same breath u saying u stand up for your culture for that is what u are. They go hand in hand and can't be disentangled at all.
That law caan change. Unless the US or whoever decide to assume sovereignty over Jamaica. Its simple - u can choose buggerin; but there are legal consequences.
Plus Leviticus 20:13 is very clear.
There is no globalisation of culture and law ! accept it
fall mouth
8/18/2011
When BG spoke to Sakhur a lot of us felt so proud of him. not necessarily because of the stance he had taken against the gays (because I have found that most of them are brilliant ) but because of his David and Goliath stance.
We didn't know him then as much as we know him now (as a flip flopper) but how quickly has he bowed to pressure.
george watson
8/18/2011
A few years ago when we were complaining about trade imbalance the U.S. relented and agreed to import our pumpkins. It was not long after that I heard that our pumpkins had a disease which in all my years I had never heard of.
That was an end to that. I make the point that there are many ways to hang a dog, so those of us who deliberately seek to undermine America’s power is being disingenuous.
There is no way they are going to allow a country as tiny as ours (some farms in the U.S. are larger than us) and with our proximity to them to do as we please that will upset their applecart, no matter how rich we are.

george watson
8/18/2011
Whenever we speak of Singapore we never tell the full story. The writer well knows that with all its achievements, if Singapore were as near to the U.S. as Jamaica is to them, then there are certain things they could not do, if the U.S. found it inimical to their interests or position.
We also know that because of a culture clash, comparing us with them is like comparing apples to oranges.
Finally we know that Singapore is a dictatorship and most of those who trumpet their successes know too well that any criticism of government policy would have them booted off the air or off the pages if not in jail.
Are they prepared for this tradeoff?

wanda woeman
8/18/2011
It is as Wignall says most of us find the gay lifestyle repugnant and would either prefer not to have them as our friends or even if we do, make fun or gossip about them behind their backs (no pun intended). Usually it goes no further than that. So why is JFlag so aggressively seeking acceptance at this time. It is as if they are saying, “You must love us, you must accept us.” It certainly cannot be because of any threat to them because we have found that most of the crimes against them are homosexual on homosexual crimes or crimes of passion.
wanda woeman
8/18/2011
I am amused to read how Messrs Sutherland of CVM and Allen of TVJ treated the matter of not accepting the gay ad at this time, as reported in yesterday’s Observer as if they were walking on eggs, as well they should, so powerful is the homosexual lobby in Jamaica and all over the world. It was good to see Mark Dawes calling a spade a spade. Hope he won’t offend any of his members.
If my son or relative is a homosexual I certainly don’t need a PSA to tell me to love him. I will be very disappointed at nature’s choice for him, or the option he has chosen for himself, but I certainly won’t love him any less.

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