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Votes for sale - St Thomas youth say money up front or no X
We want what we can get now, say young vote sellers
BY NADINE WILSON Sunday Observer staff reporter ?wilsonn@jamaicaobserver.com
Sunday, January 01, 2012
CLAD in white T-shirts, the young men who stood under a tree at the entrance to Yallahs Primary School in St Thomas on Election Day were there with one intention only: to sell their votes to the candidate who could afford them.
The group of about nine said that they had grown disenchanted with the current political system, as with each general election came a fresh round of promises that are yet to be fulfilled. Most had cast their votes in 2007, eager for a change, but found themselves no better off for their efforts.
This time around, they said, they were not going to be fooled. They wanted some sort of incentive in exchange for their ‘X’.
“We are no dunce, we are pushing for what we want, but at the same time, for us to vote today, they (politicians) would have to pay us for today, tomorrow and even for a week,” said one of them, who explained that he was a 23-yearold, first-year student at a prominent teacher’s college in Kingston.
“Give us what you can give us now, because at the end of the day, we still have to find our own college fees, we still have to mind our pickney off our own. We just want what we can get now, give it to us now, because we know we won’t see you after,” he stated.
He said that he was speaking on behalf of a number of other young people in his community who had chosen to stay home that day instead of voting.
According to the Electoral Office of Jamaica, only 52 per cent of the electorate in Jamaica turned out at the 6,629 polling stations in 2,200 locations islandwide to participate in Jamaica’s 16th election since Universal Adult Suffrage in 1944.
In the end, the Opposition People’s National Party (PNP), led by Portia Simpson Miller, steamrolled the Andrew Holness-led ruling Jamaica Labour Party, winning 41 of the 63 parliamentary seats.
Both parties had made the youth a major focus in the past few election campaigns, with catchy jingles, slogans and advertisements that seemed geared specifically at capturing their attention.
However, these young people said that there was a disconnect as nothing the politicians said seemed to speak to their reality.
“These are all youths that want better, they want to work. Some of us go school and we never really understand the value of school in a certain way, so we come out without CXCs, but that doesn’t mean we are uneducated; most of us would want the chance to go back,” he said, while pointing out that a number of them were going to evening classes and colleges in order to better themselves.
“With politics, they come today and say ‘all right now, this is it, vote for us’. We say ‘all right, start some school ting that we can go free CXC classes’. And dem say, ‘yeah man, you are going to get that’, but it no work out.’ We try to work and send ourselves, but that still don’t work out sometimes because some of us have families to take care of. Some of us have to stay with friends because we don’t have it certain way,” he said.
“It not going to be better, we don’t see how it’s going to be better. We give them ways in which we want it to be better and it’s not better, so we, as youths now, we kick back, and we say all right then, we have a vote and this is politics,” he stated.
As the young men waited under the tree, persons made their way steadily into to the polling division on the school grounds. Although they were all enumerated and had their voter IDs ready, the young men stood a good distance away from the large throng of outdoor agents for the PNP’s candidate, Leonard Green, and the JLP’s James Robertson.
The bunch was adamant that they would not be moved until they were given at least $25,000 each. They were all born in the parish, but mostly educated and worked in Kingston.
“We are not stupid, after they win or lose, tell me one reason why they would come back and look out for us as youths in the community that them done have already as undereducated people?” one of them asked.
Another young man who stood among the group declared that he hadn’t quite made up his mind as to which of the two major political parties he would vote for. Even so, he knew he had to make a decision soon because his mother had given him an ultimatum earlier that morning.
“This morning she woke me up early and say I should go and vote and I say ‘I’m not voting, you know, because things not going to be better’, and she turn to me and said ‘you know that if you don’t vote you can’t sleep here tonight’, and I said ‘for real, Mommy?’ and she said ‘I’m serious, try me’.
“Right now, she constantly a ring off my phone, but I’m not answering it, because mi no really ready yet, I’m weighing my mind,” said the 22-year-old electrician, who said that he had voted during the last election.
He said that he was challenged in making a decision, since he was not pleased with the conditions in his constituency.
“To be truthful with you, I have an empty fowl coop and I go to the (constituency) office and I write down my name to see if I could get a start; all now, them nuh do nothing for me,” he said.
“Mi no really have the money to start it, but mi link them and me say mi woulda even buy the feeding and they supply me with the fowl, but all now,” said the youngster, who said that he really wanted to attend HEART Trust/NTA so that he could be certified as an electrician.
Beside him, his friend, a 23-year-old who said that he was forced to leave the University of Technology (UTech) to seek a job after impregnating two girls, was convinced that voting would not be the solution to getting him back on the right track.
“I don’t see the sense right now. Why I should vote?” he asked.
Across the road from the group, three other young men sat under a tree talking while taking in the day’s activities. They, too, were all wearing white T-shirts, although two of the three had voted earlier in the day.
“Nothing not going on, because about eight factories that used to employ the people dem, lock down,” said the only one of the three who had refused to go and vote.
His friends said that they voted for the candidate representing the party that had the better manifesto.
In other sections of the constituency, the Sunday Observer got similar responses from other young people.
“I don’t see any benefit. I don’t see anything changing in the community; because the road bad, we don’t have any jobs and we don’t really see any form of development,” said Shawna, 22, who added that she had to earn her living by peddling on the streets of downtown Kingston, although she had graduated from one of the traditional high schools in Kingston.
“It’s all promises. But I don’t really look to any of them for handouts, I just do my little hustling,” she said.
Robertson, who was seen speaking with some of the youth, later told the Sunday Observer that they would vote for his party, but that they would not be paid to do so.
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1/1/2012
Idiots!!!!
1/1/2012
It is sad all these youths are male. It send a wrong signal. Will these young men also sell their bodies for pay too?
1/1/2012
Yes its a sad state of affairs when our youth voice their quite accurate assessment of the value of JA politicians-- older heads run dem. When everybody knows that politicians have been buying votes indirectly since the devil was a boy. If I was living there I wouldnt vote either. Vote for one set of crooks and mental pygmies against another set? Good luck to them.They should organise more youths to force the government to invest in the country and stop begging IMF. Shame on you gentlemen.
1/1/2012
So let me get this straight: these who profess themselves to be "no dunce" are standing in full view of the public, given an interview , with photograph, in which they confess to be selling their votes. Hmmm? Are these folks aware that it is an offence under the law to do what they have confessed to have done punishable by fine and/or imprisonment? yea real smart. They either should strenuously insist that the S. Observer retract and issue an immediate apology to them or they should be charged.
1/1/2012
Clearly these young Jamaican are missguided and illiterate about the electoral process. It's illegal to sell vote in every language, they all need to go back to school and try this time to learn something. Stand up, be a man and STOP looking for handouts.
1/1/2012
Based on soundings it could very well be that by-elections could be held in the constituency next year. Try again then you young dolts.
1/1/2012
I think their definition of GOVT is: "gimme gimme gimme! B/c we poor!" Such a hand-out mentality, yet still I'm sure they're all at the wickedest dances, and they all have the wickedest phones, and the wickedest jewelry. Yet when the baby-mamma come round for diaper-money "nuttin nah gwaan!". Uplift yourself people, the govt can't do it for you!
1/1/2012
While I detest vote buying and corruption I empathise with these youth Politicians made them promises which they fail to keep and yet these politicians are seen feeding at the trough and getting rich These youths actions are drawn from their own experiences and the poor examples politicians have set and are now saying they want an immediate exchange of the benefit they are entitled to as voters in a currency of their determination as the only way to get relative political representation
1/1/2012
@ Macho & Anthony......."have no shame"...I do not necessarily look at it as that! Don't get me wrong, on the surface it would appear as just that.
It more seem to me as a form of desperation, an uncanny protest action.
.....we, deep thinkers, need to think & identify what's has happened to this country of ours & our corrupt & dishonest political culture!
1/1/2012
Miscreants all!
1/1/2012
Sad, so sad! I pray that this NOT indicative of what has become of J'ca's youth... or else, J'ca is doomed.
1/1/2012
Make no mistake some of them have thrown their lives away and have none to blame but themselves. But let's remember that not every parent has resources to home school children with learning difficulties in an education system which does not address their needs. Not every parent can afford to school their children abroad. You see the problem? Some of the posters on this forum should be ashamed.
1/1/2012
People may want to be a little bit more empathetic. What I see speaking here is simple desperation. and hopelessness. Read their stories. Democracy hasn't worked for them. They sit there 4 years and see nothing better. I suspect they would've sat there through 2 JLP administrations and seen no change where they are. The government needs to uplift people below the poverty line. The focus cannot be solely on further enriching corporate pockets.
1/1/2012
Educated???? But missing critical reasoning skills, so the Education system is still failing us.......This all sounds like a new form of Extortion......whats the difference...is there one?
1/1/2012
Ethics is not high on these guys’ list of core values. They see nothing ethically as they proudly justify their actions. It should be an offence to sell, buy or offering to sell or buy votes. We got a long way to go to fix or moral compass. I hope this new administration will see it fit to enact new and or to tighten and enforce existing legislation.
1/1/2012
What is $25,000 going to do for anyone in the long run?
1/1/2012
“We are no dunce"...Dunce doesn't begin to describe unno. Damn fool is term. What a shame!!
1/1/2012
All the comments here have missed the mark. Can you not see what has happened to this (MY) generation? Can a generation be more disenchanted with not just politics but life itself? Before we shake our heads and cry shame on these young men I ask that one asks of him/herself ...How blameless am I/are we for this ingrained depravation of mind and character? I speak specifically to those of you who are of a previous epoch.
1/1/2012
Guess the government is responsible for his getting the two young girls pregnant and hence having to leave Utech? Isn't this something? I am amazed by what these youngsters expect. As sad as it is to say, the country will forever be in a crisis if attitudes like these do not change.
1/1/2012
the tragedy in this story is that one of these louts is training to teach the children. thats why i dont respect titles. man going to UTECH and impregnating 2 girls and then want Govt to take care a dem pickney. so yuh see, even the so call educated a parasite. grow up on SOCIALIST mentality. love handouts and promises.. Im surprise dem neverhave some weed a grindin dem hand middle
1/1/2012
II. Re: "Beside him, his friend, a 23-year-old who said that he was forced to leave the University of Technology (UTech) to seek a job after impregnating two girls..."
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Was it a few days ago that I spoke about the problem of "serialization of breeding" as a Jamaican issue? Well, here you have an example from someone who is supposed to be "brighter" than the average JAM. I do not want to think what the less bright ones get up to when it comes to "serialization of breeding."
1/1/2012
@Ghost Rider, Take a look at the people who benefit from this practice and you will see why its not seen as a crime.
1/1/2012
I support these young people 110% i myself is a young ja'can electorate & the only way i would vote is if i too was paid. it is obvious to me neither party has what it takes to lead ja out of the precipit both parties dug us in . when the mps win there seat u dont see them back until election time & they make empty promises which they know they wont keep . all they do is sit in parliament & sleep & get fat with their hefty paychecks & we who vote them in power mawga out like suffering dawg .
1/1/2012
For 25.000$ and what happens after that 25.000 is finish? Another example of low self esteem. How can you be proud to say you never understand the values of school? The again, getting 2 girls pregnant seems to have been more productive to the other one. I have to agree with all the other comments so far. This is a ugly state of a situation. Apparently, you all are not dunces, but you all need to wake up now and get going....Find away and stop depending on politics.
1/1/2012
I am appall at what I am reading. Am I to understand that these young men really believe that the government is responsible for the route their lives have taken? Firstly, they had the opportunity to waste 11 years of schooling, now they expect free CXC classes ! Secondly, you were sensible enough to impregnate two young girls and would now want us to sympathize and agree with you that the government is responsible! Urgent attitude change or else the country will always be in a dilemma!
1/1/2012
Multiply this attitude across the whole island and you'll get a better understanding of why Jamaica is the way it is. Always on the lookout for a handout! You guys don't look like you need funds at all. Those jeans and some of those watches don't look cheap! I bet each of you also has a fancy cell phone on your person.
1/1/2012
I hope neither party paid them anything for their votes, it is that mentality that put Jamaica in the state it is struggling to get out of, no matter how they try to polish it up to make it look/sound good that is still extortion. There are too many people at the bottom of the scale without education or trade competing for whatever resource there is down there. Sometime it is by choice because when many young people are in school they do not pull their weight (so to speak), to study or learn a trade where there is a big gap for qualified people. Especially young people need to understand that studying is good for the brain to expand and increase knowledge, far too many will go through lengths to obtain high marks without putting in the work; not even realising that they are just cheating themselves, as if going to school is like going through some kind of emotion and coming out with naught, then blame it on the government to squeeze the life out of taxpayers. When I was growing up there were young girls learning dressmaking with some lady down the road, or a boy learning tailoring the same way. Or some learning mechanic or welding at a garage without the government’s involvement. “Impregnating 2 women,” they never heard about birth control or AIDS.
1/1/2012
"Give us what you can give us now, because at the end of the day, we still have to find our own college fees, we still have to mind our pickney off our own".
The blood suckers want to breed, accumulate bills and have somebody else pay for it. In every enlightened society students pay for education you morons. How did you qualify for higher education, clearly the standards are too low. God help Jamaica land I love.
1/1/2012
Typical of some Jamaicans, always want something for nothing.
1/1/2012
“We are no dunce, we are pushing for what we want, but at the same time, for us to vote today, they (politicians) would have to pay us for today, tomorrow and even for a week,” said one of them, who explained that he was a 23-yearold, first-year student at a prominent teacher’s college in Kingston.
These people are illiterates/criminals and should be arrested and imprisoned for at least 20 years. this why Jamica will fail. These people are nothing but leeches sucking the blood of Jamaica.
1/1/2012
We have obviously failed our youth, and therefore our country's future. Is this what our civic franchise amounts to? I'm sure this idea is not isolated to this community. Their own poor decision making is compounded by the poor governance that has become the status quo. Obviously these politicians are locked into a lose-lose situation...tell the people the truth and lose, tell them lies, win and then can't deliver... Obviously this system at present can only respond to short-term expectations.
1/1/2012
One thing I learned from my last trip to St Thomas (the parish in which I was born) is that people there seem to have no shame. Shame as a social control mechanism does not seem to work for some of these people. I would be ashamed, for example, to have my picture taken to show that I supported taking money to vote. And we need to stop blaming politicians for not "engaging young people." How about young people engaging politicians? What is the role of young people in advocating for themselves?
1/1/2012
This is so absurd, hope this is not a trend, Besides they have no shame, they even gave their photograph
1/1/2012
These young men are totally irresponsible. One, impregnating two girls, now seeking a handout, another, want to raise chickens, now seeking a handout, how disgusting! My dad did odd jobs until he was able to make a decent living and raised all of us kids, now some are lawyers and doctors, Hey, you guys, ever heard of doing ODD JOBS? Look at the way they are dressed? Who paid for those clothes? Have some ambition! Go and do some odd jobs till your ship comes in.
1/1/2012
Robertson, who was seen speaking with some of the youth, later told the Sunday Observer that they would vote for his party, but that they would not be paid to do so.
Yawn drink my coffee and continuing reading, This reporter should take this group numbers and call them see if what the answer Mr Robertson give match theirs. Sure am no big head money the want money they have to get to vote. Happy New Year everyone.
1/1/2012
St. Thomas....Remember Copie the duppy story? St. Thomas! Flour and bread poison? St. Thomas! Hmmm! All that was from back in the 70`s. Now they pose for the camera, "Votes For Sale". A great spa Bath St, Thomas messed up and the beat goes on! The psyche has not changed. The formula for insanity is to keep on doing the same thing and expect a different result. Give a man a fish and he is fed for a day. Teach him to fish and will be fed for life. St. Thomas needs to be taught how to fish.
1/1/2012
A 23 year old UTech student impregnating 2 girls? A 23 year old student who is able to get a girl pregnant but NOT the intelligence not to? A 23 year old Jamaican soooo happy to sell his soul to the JLPNP for a few hundred dollars. A 23 year old Jamaican college student who has just set out on the road to POVERTY. This 23 year old college student epitomises the Jamaican tragedy.
1/1/2012
LOL did they get the loot?
1/1/2012
I see this asa ringing endorsement of the failure of the current govt - they completely disenfranchised the youth and other well thinking Jcans. The level of corruption and arrogance (with ignorance) displayed has never before been seen in Ja.
They treated the populace with disdain and contempt - when caught out they thought it was good enough to say "but the PND did it as well- so what?!!" The members of this cabinet should never sit in the house again!!
1/1/2012
Mr. James Bobertson is a waste of people's valuable time to vote for , this man had won elections twice once is party was ion power and he did nutten, Mr. Robertson seem not to know what it means to represent the people. We want people of action, all we see is Mr. Robertson on our TV set speaking like him just land. These people in west St. Thomas only talk because once again he hIS MP FOR THE CONSTITUENCY FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS OF SPEAKIE SPOKIE. Never see this man in my district until election
1/1/2012
What an ignorant set of young fools? It doesn't seem that they collectively have two brain cells between them.
1/1/2012
"we never really understand the value of school in a certain way, so we come out without CXCs" "he was forced to leave the University of Technology (UTech) to seek a job after impregnating two girls" Those two statements alone say what needs to be fixed. Our children need to graduate from 11 years of school with qualifications and skills period. Education should be our focus and not health. And 'Just Say No' to the handout mentality and 'Yes' to parents raising self sufficient adults.
1/1/2012
what a sad state of affairs in Jamaica!
1/1/2012
LOUTS! How come this is not a crime? And to think that at least one of them will be teaching our children in the future.
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