NASSAU, Bahamas (CMC) — Caribbean telecommunication ministers and service providers on Tuesday failed to agree on how best to deal with Voice over Internet Protocol (VOIP) platforms such as Viber, with the providers complaining that they were losing a significant amount of money due to illegal practices.

The providers, such as Jamaica’s Digicel, say VOIPs users use their data resources without paying and in some markets, access to these VOIP through cellular data has been blocked.

Digicel Group Board Director, Patrick James Mara told a roundtable discussion on strategic alliances for sustainable broadband development that “illegal’ voice bi-pass service avoid paying taxes and licenses fees that other providers must pay.

The roundtable formed part of the activities for the 30th annual conference of CANTO that began here on Monday.

“Put simply, this is an unsustainable situation, one that a number of industry players have been trying to address for some time now, and one that no one has been able to successfully overcome, and one that we are tackling head one,” Mara said.

“Not only are we happy to take it head on, but a number of operators in the region will be tackling this issue in the coming months, because this is not something that can be sustained,” he told the gathering.

He compared the situation to drilling an oil well, “and some hobo came along and say I am going to pipe into this tank, take your oil, pay you no money, because I have got customers that I want to sell that oil”.

He said the situation results in a significant loss of revenue for telecommunications providers, and by extension the government of countries where they operate.

Officials estimate that the losses are in the vicinity of US$500 million indicating that Caribbean governments stand to lose as much as US$150 million in the near future.

“You build a lot of schools, hospitals, health services and provide all kinds of social services for your communities for $150 million. These operators are making no contribution to your communities, to your government, to your tax requirements in your communities,” Mara said, adding “and this is a huge problem not just for Caricom (Caribbean Community) countries, it is a problem for a problem across the world.”

“This is a matter that regulators are going to have to take seriously. There are technical problems here, there are legal problems …It is a matter that we are going to be addressing through our legal department, through our various technical people without regulator.”

He said a positive response should be coming from the regulatory authorities and from the governments within the region.

“These are parasite — these operators. They are not genuine operators like Twitter or Facebook, who have invested significant funds. These people are thieves. There isn’t any milder way to put it. …These people make no contribution to your societies and it has to stop. So, I am asking you now regulators to address this issue with the various operators,” Mara told the roundtable, adding that to date the only people making money from these VOIPs are venture capitalists.

But Dominica’s telecommunications minister Ambrose George said the issue of net neutrality, in which the internet is seen as a whole of information sharing using varying types of data transmission “poses another interesting view point.

“Internet traffic is simply data, whether it is telephony, e-fax, text, audio, etc. Hence, there should not be any form of discrimination of data based on its origin or type or nature,” he told the conference.

Digicel executive and CANTO director Julian Wilkins, told the ministers that telecommunication providers do not have issues with “over the top” — “unregulated” — companies like Whatsapp, Instagram and Facebook.

They object to platforms such as Viber using their data services, because “we have problems with unlicensed, number-based voice over IP providers.

“From Digicel’s position, where telecoms providers are competing in the same market, we would like the same rules and legislation must be applied on order to keep a level playing field,” he further said.

However, St Lucia’s Science and Technology, Information and Broadcasting Minister Dr James Fletcher, said telecommunications providers are being affected in much the same way as stores in Castries givent he fact that more St. Lucians are shopping online and taking advantage of the country’s duty free barrels provision at Christmas.

“Unfortunately, VOIP has done the same thing for the service providers. There is a demand there that is not being met. And, like my colleague from Jamaica, I would be a lot happier if it were a Caribbean VOIP solution. But the solution cannot be to get rid of VOIP, because there is a very significant demand that these people are providing,” he said.

Jamaica’s Minister of Science Technology Phillip Paulwell said he believes that there is a sensible way out of the situation, “recognising that the greater goal is to get our people to have access to data services and we have distinguish that from some of the other services that are plain old telephone services”.

Fletcher said that in the same way that ministries of agriculture across the Caribbean encourage persons to buy local produce, there must be a local solution to the VOIP issue.

“…People are not just using those VOIPS for frivolous matters. They are using them to communicate with family members who before they could not communicate with; businesses are using them,” Fletcher said, and called on stakeholder to “agree on a way in which we can come up with an option that works for all concerned”.

He said Caribbean nationals want to be able to call their relatives overseas “and not pay an arm and a leg, to the point that they have to schedule these calls once every two months.

“That (cheap/free frequent calls) is what they are used to. So, to tell them that they cannot use Skype, they cannot use Vonage, they cannot use magicJack and not provide them with an alternative is really asking a government, which is made up of politicians, who every five years have to face an electorate for re-election, to commit suicide. It does not make any sense,” Fletcher said.